Wednesday, November 25, 2015

Surviving pilot of Russia's downed plane rules out Turkey’s airspace violation

A rescued pilot navigator of the Russian Su-24 bomber aircraft, downed on Tuesday by a Turkish fighter jet on the border with Syria, said there was not a single possibility that his plane had violated the airspace of Turkey.
"No, this is out of the question even for a one-second possibility, as we were at the altitude of 6,000 meters and the weather was clear," the pilot said in interview with Russia’s Rossiya-1 television channel.
"All our mission flight was in my personal full control until the explosion of the missile," he said.
"There was not even a slightest threat of getting into Turkey," the pilot added.
According to the man, there were no warnings from Turkey.
"In fact there were no warnings either via radio communication or optically. There were no contacts at all. That’s why we flew heading combat course as per normal," he said.
"If they wanted to warn us they could have come out by flying on parallel courses. But this did not happen. And the missile came to our jet’ tail all of a sudden… We didn’t even see it to have time for missile evasive maneuver," the navigator said.
The  navigator pilot said he will continue his tour of duty in Syria and will remain assigned to the Hmeymim airbase.
"I’m looking forward to the moment I’ll be discharged (from hospital) because I’ll step back into the ranks then," Captain Konstantin Murakhtin, the navigator, told Rossiya One TV channel on Wednesday.
"I’ll ask the commanders for permission to stay on this airbase," he said. "I have a debt to pay off on the part of my commander [who was shot dead by militants from the ground after catapulting from the jets - TASS]."
The Russian Su-24M all-weather bomber aircraft (NATO reporting name Fencer) was on anti-terrorism mission in Syria on Tuesday morning, when it was shot down by a Turkish F-16 fighter jet. Ankara claims it downed the Russian warplane after it had violated Turkey’s airspace, while the Russian Defense Ministry says the bomber was in the airspace over Syria at the time of the attack.
http://tass.ru/en/defense/839304

Putin is Accusing Turkey of Being an ISIS Ally—and He’s At Least Partly Right

The Islamic State group reportedly smuggles a large volume of oil via trader routes going almost exclusively through Turkey.
The developing crisis over Turkey’s downing of a Russian warplane today (Nov. 24) worsened when Syrian opposition fighters shot down a Russian rescue helicopter searching for two airmen who parachuted out of the stricken jet. Turkish media reported that at least one and possibly both of the jet pilots are dead. If so, they may be the first western or Russian troops to die in the Syrian conflict. There was no word on the fate of some 10 crewmen said to be aboard the helicopter.
Putin called the Turkish shooting of the jet “a stab in the back by accomplices of the terrorists.” He accused Turkey of aiding the Islamic State (ISIL) by facilitating its sale of oil: [ISIL] has big money, hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars, from selling oil. In addition they are protected by the military of an entire nation. One can understand why they are acting so boldly and blatantly. Why they [can] kill people in such atrocious ways. Why they [can] commit terrorist acts across the world, including in the heart of Europe.
The remarks sound harsh even for Putin, who has built a reputation as a tough talker. But the core of his accusations—that Turkey has at best played a conflicted role in the battle against ISIL—is true. It’s just that the West has resisted saying so in order to keep Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan on side, in hopes he will keep allowing his NATO allies to use Turkish soil and air space for attacks on Syria. See also: It’s High Time for US, Russian Militaries to Start Meeting Again
ISIL reportedly markets most of its oil and refined product locally in Syria and Iraq, but it also smuggles a large volume out of the territories under its control, selling to traders who use routes that almost all go through Turkey. In all, ISIL earns about half a billion dollars a year from such sales, according to estimates made prior to the current escalation of bombing runs on its oil empire by the US and Russia. Turkey has been crucial to ISIL in other ways: It has served as a gateway for ISIL cash, people, and materiel into Syria. After bombing attacks in Turkey, Erdogan reversed a prior ban onUS bombing runs from Turkish soil—but only on the condition that no one got in the way of Turkish forces bombing and shelling Kurds in Iraq and Syria. (Pro-western Kurdish forces have carried out almost the only cohesive ground offensives against ISIL, but Erdogan fears their support for Kurdish activism in Turkey.)
Putin, however, is in no such diplomatic straitjacket because, unlike the West, he has close relationships with both Syria and Iran, and thus can use their territory as a way to fight the Syrian opposition. On Nov. 24, Putin met in Tehran with Iran supreme leader Ali Khamenei.
Russia has escalated bombing runs on Syria since the Nov. 13ISIL attack on Paris, and the deaths of more than 200 passengers aboard a Russian charter airliner blown up over Egypt on Oct. 31 by homemade ISIL explosives. While many of the most recent Russian attacks have targeted ISIL, Moscow has continued to bomb Syrian opposition groups backed byNATO, including Turkmen militias supported by Turkey. Even before Putin spoke, traders panicked a bit, sending global stock indexes lower in Asia, Europe, and the US, and bidding up gold and oil prices sharply. At midday in New York, the price for a barrel of Brent crude was back up above $45, a 3% gain on the day.
http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2015/11/putin-accusing-turkey-being-isis-allyand-hes-least-partly-right/123975/?oref=DefenseOneFB&&

Turkey - Ankara's oil business with ISIS

Moscow has accused Turkey of helping Islamic State in the illegal oil trade which helps finance the terrorist group. According to analysts, Russian airstrikes in Syria are disrupting the profitable deals for Turkish middlemen, including Ankara officials.
Turkish social media has posted photos of Turkish President Recep Erdogan’s son Necmettin Bilal having dinner in an Istambul restaurant with an alleged ISIS leader, who it is claimed participated in massacres in Syria’s Homs and Rojava, the Kurdish name for Syrian Kurdistan or Western Kurdistan.
There is speculation Bilal Erdogan is directly involved in the black market oil business with Islamic State.
“IS has big money, hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars, from selling oil. In addition they are protected by the military of an entire nation. One can understand why they are acting so boldly and blatantly. Why they kill people in such atrocious ways. Why they commit terrorist acts across the world, including in the heart of Europe,” said Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday, after a Turkish F16 downed a Russian Su-24 jet near the Turkish-Syrian border.

Last October, the US Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence David Cohen said Islamic State was earning $1 million a day from oil sales. “According to our information, as of last month, ISIL [now more commonly known as ISIS] was selling oil at substantially discounted prices to a variety of middlemen, including some from Turkey, who then transported the oil to be resold. It also appears that some of the oil emanating from territory where ISIL operates has been sold to Kurds in Iraq, and then resold into Turkey,” he said.
According to Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, the middlemen in Turkey are not only entrepreneurs, but are Ankara officials. Turkey is protecting Islamic State because of “direct financial interest of some Turkish officials relating to the supply of oil products refined by plants controlled by ISIS.”
Russian political analyst Igor Yushkov from the National Energy Security Fund said Moscow’s anti-terror operation in Syria makes such business much more difficult.
“Nowadays the truck columns have to disperse and their payload has grown smaller. Before the operation buyers would visit the oilfields themselves, now they have had to organize a new cluster,” he told Gazeta.ru. He added that oil extraction will decrease because ISIS lacks qualified specialists.
A member of the expert council of the Russian Oil Industry Union Eldar Kasayev said Islamic State is selling oil at $15–25 per barrel, which is much cheaper than the Brent benchmark, trading at $45-50.
"By reselling it, Ankara has the opportunity to earn extra income and continue to bomb the Kurds, saying its bombing radicals,” he said.

https://www.rt.com/business/323391-isis-oil-business-turkey-russia/

Putin: Erdogan pursues radical islamisation of Turkey; Russian citizens are in danger

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Tuesday, November 24, 2015

Hillary Clinton talks climate change, wage equality in Boulder campaign stop





By Sarah Kuta

Hillary Clinton spoke to supporters in Boulder for just under an hour Tuesday morning in a wide-ranging speech that touched on climate change, early childhood education, college affordability, gun control and the economy.
After being introduced by a group of Democrats — Colorado House Speaker Dickey Lee Hullinghorst, U.S. Rep. Jared Polis and former U.S. Sen. Mark Udall — the presidential hopeful took the stage at the Boulder Theater just after noon to address a crowd of about 1,000.
"It's always a treat to be in Boulder," Clinton told the crowd as she stood in front of American and Colorado flags, which flanked a blue "Fighting for us" campaign sign hanging at the back of the stage.
Hillary Clinton supporters lead a cheer during the Democratic presidential candidate’s visit to the Boulder Theater on Tuesday.
Hillary Clinton supporters lead a cheer during the Democratic presidential candidate's visit to the Boulder Theater on Tuesday. (Cliff Grassmick / Staff Photographer)
With a quick jab at Republican presidential hopefuls,("I want to start with a factual statement," she said to laughter and cheers), Clinton spoke about the economic challenges tackled by the two most recent Democratic presidents, her husband Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.
Despite praising their economic accomplishments, the former U.S. senator and secretary of state also made a point of setting herself apart from the two men.
"I'm not running for my husband's third term or President Obama's third term, I'm running for my first term, but I'm going to do what works for the economy," she said.
Clinton said her economic plan includes creating more jobs in infrastructure and renewable energy, and working to reduce some of the "red tape" faced by small business owners. She said she wants to change the tax code so that companies aren't moving overseas to save money, a tactic known as inversion.
She also spoke about raising the minimum wage and ensuring wage equality between men and women, an idea she sees as an economic growth strategy, not a women's rights issue.
"When I say I want equal pay for equal work, the Republicans often say, 'Well, there she goes playing the gender card,'" Clinton said. "Well, I'll tell you what, if equal pay for equal work is playing the gender card, deal me in."
Clinton's speech touched on her plans for paid family leave, a caregiver tax credit for people taking care of sick family members, universal pre-kindergarten education, free community college and other higher education affordability measures, bringing down the cost of prescription drugs, mental health and substance abuse treatment and addressing climate change.
Clinton vowed to see 500 million solar panels installed before the end of her first term, calling climate change a "consequential, existential" challenge.
She spoke at length about her plans for addressing gun violence and her strategy for tackling ISIS and other terrorist groups abroad. In response to recent Republican opposition to admitting and resettling Syrian refugees, Clinton said America should continue to be "open and welcoming" at the end of a vetting process.
"I have heard all this loose, inflammatory talk about refugees and I don't think that does us any good at all in waging and winning the fight against these criminals and killers who misuse religion and promote a different set of values than the ones that we believe in," she said.
Hillary Clinton poses with Melanie Sawyer, a senior at Boulder’s Fairview High School, during a campaign event at the Boulder Theater on Tuesday.

Hillary Clinton poses with Melanie Sawyer, a senior at Boulder's Fairview High School, during a campaign event at the Boulder Theater on Tuesday. (Cliff Grassmick / Staff Photographer)




Campaign visits

After the public event, Clinton was scheduled to appear at a private fundraiser at the Boulder home of Jennifer and Mo Siegel, founder of Celestial Seasonings, and at Manual High School in Denver.
At various points during her talk, the crowd erupted in cheers, especially at the end, when Clinton walked into the crowd to sign autographs and take pictures as Katy Perry's song "Roar" boomed over the speakers.
Clinton's visit marked the third Democratic presidential candidate to campaign in Boulder this year.
Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders spoke to some 9,000 people on the University of Colorado's campus on Oct. 10 and former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley visited the campus Oct. 28, the same day that CU hosted 14 GOP presidential candidates in a debate presented by CNBC at the Coors Events Center.
Supporters in line
Standing outside in the crisp November air prior to Clinton's appearance, 17-year-old Melanie Sawyer was determined to be first in the door to see the woman she plans to vote for in her first election next year.
Sawyer, a senior at Fairview High School, showed up at the Boulder Theater at 7 a.m. in a puffy purple coat to ensure she'd see Clinton during her first public campaign event in Boulder.
"I'm just really interested in what she has to say," Sawyer said. "I want to hear from her directly. I've never been in close proximity of a presidential candidate."
Supporters ranged in age from 10 years old to 60, with many saying they've already decided they want to see Clinton in the White House after the 2016 election.
If she got the chance, Sarah Oro, 12, said she planned to ask Clinton a few tough questions. Chiefly, how would she make college more affordable for young people like her?
Oro, holding a handmade Clinton campaign sign, and her younger brother, 10-year-old Ryan, made the trek to Boulder from Littleton with their mother Cindy Robinson.
Ryan Oro said he's excited about Clinton's potential to be the first woman in the White House and that it was his idea to come to the Boulder campaign event.
"He's been watching the debates," Robinson said.

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Video - Fact checking Donald Trump's 9/11 claims

A Definitive Debunking of Donald Trump’s 9/11 Claims

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How alarmed were New Jersey officials by reports of Muslims dancing in the streets of Jersey City and Paterson on Sept. 11, 2001, to celebrate the destruction of the World Trade Center? They feared riots would break out and were ready to send in the National Guard and the State Police to preserve order.But John J. Farmer Jr., then the New Jersey attorney general and the state’s chief law enforcement officer, said on Tuesday that he ordered an investigation that very day and found the reports to be bogus, more wild stories born in the stricken hours after the attacks.
Nevertheless, those ancient, false rumors were recycled as truth over the weekend by Donald J. Trump, who has folded them into his calls for the national registration of Muslims and possible closing of mosques. Speaking in Alabama, Mr. Trump said: “Hey, I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering.”
Reporters were unable to find any evidence for his story, but Mr. Trump stuck with it in a television interview on Sunday. “It did happen,” he said. “I saw it. It was on television.”Few people, if any, could address the circumstances more definitively than Mr. Farmer, who went on to serve as senior counsel to the Sept. 11 commission.
In an account Mr. Farmer provided Tuesday, he described being in the state’s command center, in Liberty State Park in Jersey City, directly across the Hudson River from the burning wreckage of the trade center. The New Jersey State Police radio antenna had been on top of one of the towers, cutting off communications.“We were forced to rely on runners for intelligence about what was happening across the river and in New Jersey,” Mr. Farmer said.
In the vacuum, rumors were flying, he said. Bombers with suicide vests were in Times Square. Saboteurs were lurking around power plants. New York City’s mayor, Rudolph W. Giuliani, was missing.
And then there was the wisp of a story that Mr. Farmer said was most disturbing of all: “That Muslims were dancing on the rooftops and in the streets of Jersey City and Paterson.” Indeed, pockets of radical Islamists had set up in Jersey City in the past. The 1993 World Trade Center bombers rented a van and stored chemicals and fertilizers in that city. Open jubilation at the mass death, Mr. Farmer said, might quickly be followed by rioting and more deaths. “If true, we would have had to mobilize the State Police and National Guard and locked the place down,” he said. “We followed up on that report instantly because of its implications,” he added. “The word came back quickly from Jersey City, later from Paterson. False report. Never happened.”
Political campaigns are notorious for the damage they do to truth, but Mr. Trump’s presidential run has erased any lines that would segregate rumors, facts, mistakes and outright falsehoods. This month, he posted a graphic on Twitter that purported to show that 81 percent of white murder victims were killed by blacks; in fact, 82 percent of whites are murdered by whites. Confronted by Bill O’Reilly, Mr. Trump essentially shrugged: “I retweeted somebody that was supposedly an expert, and it was also a radio show.” He has said, variously, that 200,000 or 250,000 Syrian refugees would be coming to the United States; the Obama administration’s actual goal for next year is 10,000, as FactCheck.org reported.
Indifferent as Mr. Trump is to facts, in retailing the myth of the dancing Muslims, he could not face a more sober and careful fact-finder than Mr. Farmer.
Now a professor of law at Rutgers University, he led the Sept. 11 commission’s investigation of the disarray in the nation’s air defenses on that morning and exposed as fiction claims by the Pentagon that fighter pilots were in hot pursuit of the hijacked airliners. In fact, military officials did not know about three of the four hijacked planes until after they had already crashed. That became the subject of a book by Mr. Farmer, “The Ground Truth,” which was hailed by Jacob Heilbrunn in The New York Times as a “precise and reliable accounting of what happened.”
Mr. Farmer said isolating and stigmatizing Muslims now, whatever its short-term political appeal, would spawn more alienated Muslim youth and potential recruits for the Islamic State.
“Whatever the message, it is just plain wrong to cite thousands of Muslims dancing in Jersey City or Paterson on 9/11 as support,” Mr. Farmer said. “That simply never happened.”

Rich, theocratic monarchy bombs the hell out of poorest country in the Middle East, John Kerry calls it "progress"












Ben Norton

Brutally bombing Yemen is helping “accomplish significant progress,” according to Secretary Kerry.


“War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength” was the slogan of the totalitarian government in George Orwell’s canonical novel “1984.” We can now add another phrase to the dystopian motto: “Brutally bombing poor countries is helping ‘accomplish significant progress.'”
Secretary of State John Kerry visited the United Arab Emirates (UAE) today to meet with Foreign Minister Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahyan. The UAE — a close Western ally with some of the world’s largest oil reserves — is a federation of seven absolute monarchies which base their laws on an extreme interpretation of Sharia (Islamic law). Although it tries to present itself as practicing a semblance of democracy, the roles of the UAE’s president and prime minister are effectively hereditary in nature, passed down to the emirs of Abu Dhabi and Dubai.
The New York Times has described the UAE as “an autocracy with the sheen of a progressive, modern state.”
In his trip Monday morning, Kerry applauded the monarchic, theocratic state for its work in the region.
“We respect what United Arab Emirates has been able to do to be able to accomplish significant progress in Yemen,” Kerry said.
What exactly does Kerry mean by “significant progress”? He means the UAE has helped wage a destructive war on Yemen, the poorest country in the Middle East.
For the past seven months, Saudi Arabia has been leading a coalition of Middle Eastern countries — armed by Western allies, primarily the U.S. — that is raining bombs down upon Yemen. The Western-backed coalition, which seeks to reinstate President Abd Rabbuh Mansur Hadi, is fighting Houthi rebels, who have received some weapons and support from Iran, and fighters loyal to former President Ali Abdullah Saleh.
Hadi characterizes the Houthi rebels as puppets of Iran; the rebels, in turn, call Hadi the puppet of Saudi Arabia and the U.S. As president, Hadi approved and praised the U.S. drone war in Yemen, which has killed a large number of civilians, terrorizing and sometimes even radicalizing the population. The U.N. says American drones havekilled more civilians than al-Qaeda militants, and many scholars, intelligence officials, and journalists have argued that the drone war in Yemen and elsewhere has onlymade violent extremism worse.
Although the coalition is led by Saudi Arabia, the UAE has played an important role. From the time the war began on March 26, the coalition has carried out regular airstrikes on targets in Yemen. In August, UAE troops escalated the conflict by essentially invading Yemen. Scores of Emirati soldiers have died in the on-the-ground fighting.
The U.S. media has been very quiet about the war overall, and American politicians have been even quieter. Yet the conflict has been catastrophic.
“We understand completely and support the reasons that Saudi Arabia and the UAE felt compelled to take acts of self-defense and to protect the security of this region,” Kerry said. But is the UAE acting in self-defense?

China - Xi stresses development of Marxist economic philosophy

Chinese President Xi Jinping has called for new advances in Marxisteconomic philosophy by turning practices and experiences in China's economicdevelopment into economic theories.
Xi made the remarks on Monday while presiding over a group study session of the PoliticalBureau of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China (CPC), China's topleadershipon the basic theory and methodology of Karl Marx's political economy.
In face of the extremely complex economic situation at home and aboard as well as variedeconomic phenomenathe study of Marxist political economy could help conducteconomic analysis in a scientific wayimprove the capability of managing a socialistmarket economyand better answer problems of economic developmentXi said.
The CPC has enriched Marxist political economy by combining its basic principles withnew practices in reform and opening up and made many key theoretical achievementsXisaidlisting acknowledgment of the market's "decisiverole in allocating resourcesthe"new normaltheory and its development as examples.
"This new development concept should be used to guide and promote our country'seconomic developmentunravel difficult problemsand create new dimension in economicdevelopment," Xi said.
As the fundamental standpoint of Marxist political economythe theory of putting peopleat the center should be upheld while deploying worksetting down policies and promotingeconomic developmentaccording to Xi.
The president highlighted the need to uphold and improve the basic socialist economicsystemstressing that people should consolidate and develop the public sector whileencouragingsupporting and guiding the non-public sector to develop.
"The mainstay status of the public ownership and the leading role of the state-ownedeconomy must not waver," he saidadding that these could ensure that people from allethnic groups share the fruit of developmentand they are guarantees for solidifying CPC'sruling status and adherence to the socialist system.
In additionXi stressed that the direction for reforming the socialist market economy andthe basic state policy of opening up should be adhered.
During the group studymembers of the political bureau listened to a lecture delivered byProfessor Gu Hailiang from a committee of social sciences under the Ministry ofEducation.
Group study is used by the top leadership to learn about major issuesIt was the 28thgroup study of the current political bureau.

'Why down Russian jet? Because fighting ISIS is not really on Turkey's agenda'

Turkey has been consistent in pursuing its own agenda: to pretend to be fighting ISIS while settling scores with one of the two parties that are actually capable of fighting ISIS on the ground – the Kurds, says Foreign Affairs Editor Srdja Trifkovic.

As a Russian Su-24 fighter jet operating over Syria was shot down, RT discussed with experts the reasons and possible consequences of this incident.
Srdja Trifkovic, Foreign Affairs Editor:
"It is perfectly consistent with Turkish behavior since it ostensibly joined the anti-ISIS campaign last July.
Over 80 percent of the tonnage of their bombs would drop on the Kurds fighting ISIS in Northern Syria and North Western Iraq. So, in fact Turkey has been consistent in pursuing its own agenda which is to pretend to be fighting ISIS while settling scores with one of the two parties that are actually capable of fighting ISIS on the ground, the other being, of course, the Syrian Army.
But I think this is a reckless move by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to throw spanners in the works of Russia’s increasing profile as the only serious player from the outside who is trying to do something.
Patience that we are now witnessing between France and Russia.
So, I think Erdogan who has been increasingly reckless and prepared to take serious gambles in recent years is now trying to up the ante and force the rest of NATO into a gesture of solidarity with Turkey. Of course, if you have the F-16 right in the air even before the Russian jets allegedly violated the airspace it was evidently a set-up. It was a deliberate trap which Erdogan down the chain of command had ordered to set up because he wants to test Russia’s response and he also wants to use or rather misuse Turkish membership of NATO to force the rest of the alliance into a virtually anti-Russian posture while at the same time sabotaging the fight against ISIS with which he secretly sympathizes. So, there are a number of motives for him to act this way in my personal opinion, when you put it all together, it is quite clear why he did it.
It will really poison the relations between Turkey and Russia".
Russian actions in Syria spooked Turkey
Catherine Shakdam, from the Shafaqna Institute of Middle Eastern Studies says that the timing of the attack on the Russian plane indicates that Turkey is afraid Russia might find proof that Ankara is working with terrorists.  
"The downing of the plane now is very telling about the relationship that Turkey has harbored with the radicals in the region and particularly ISIL, but not only ISIL – we have many, many groups in the region, we have al-Nusra, al-Qaeda...
The timing of this attack and the very fact that Russia was about getting rid of those financial veins towards ISIL, suddenly, I would say, maybe spooked Turkey a little bit - whether Russia would find out about technicalities or maybe undeniable proof on the ground that Turkey is working with terrorists or whether it is just a money flow will be stopped... There are many, many links between Turkey and ISIL. I think money is one of the least of them".
Russia: no interest in violating Turkish airspace
Aleksandr Pavic, political analyst:
"Russia has no interest in breaching Turkish airspace.
Even under the remote possibility that something like that happened, it would clearly be something that wasn’t on purpose. So, in any case Turkey, to say the least, overreacted knowing very well how serious the consequences would be. So, we need to think about what were the motives of Turkey for doing this. Just a few days ago the Security Council brought a resolution on the united fight against terrorism, specifically mentioning ISIS, Al-Qaeda and all related terrorist organizations related terrorist organizations which meant a call for the entire world to fight against the terrorism which we clearly identified. So, why is Turkey shooting a key, leading member of this anti-terrorist coalition. This is a question that must be answered…"
Turkey-Russia: major diplomatic row
The problem here is that we are seeing social media pictures, so, we have not got all the facts clarified yet, said Julian Bray, aviation security expert.
"The Russians are quite clear, they say they didn’t violate Turkish airspace and it is possibly a surface to air missile that brought it down. Meanwhile, the Turks are saying it was one of their aircraft – a Turkish F-16 fighter jets that actually brought the Russian plane down which is very worrying anyway. So, they really have to sort this one out because there is a major diplomatic row going on. They referred it back to NATO, but it is a complete mess…"
Russian jet downed over Syrian territory
A Russian fighter jet was targeted inside Syrian territory where Russia has been fighting against ISIS, Marwa Osman, political commentator told RT.
"We are talking about a plane which was targeted inside Syrian territory – that is the territory that Russia has been dealing with and working within for the past, say two month, or a month and a half.  Turkey has been warning Russia - we have heard and read a lot about what the Turks were telling the Russians; and even the Russian ambassador the other day – telling him that they were violating certain standards or certain forms by targeting these Turkmen villages... If these villages were actually inhabited by civilians we wouldn’t have seen right now the very unfortunate footage of the Russian pilot being detained and captured by militants".
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/323287-su24-fighter-russia-turkey-syria/

'17 Seconds': No One’s Buying Turkey’s Version of Su-24 Story

The Turkish government’s official explanation for shooting down a Russian Su-24 bomber was that it had violated Turkish airspace. But Ankara’s timeline of the events is already raising questions.

In the wake of the downing of a Russian bomber along the Turkey-Syria border on Tuesday, many were demanding answers. In a letter to the United Nations Security Council, the Turkish ambassador gave his government’s view of the incident.

"This morning (24 November) 2 SU-24 planes, the nationality of which are unknown have approached Turkish national airspace in Yayladagi/Hatay region. The planes in question have been warned 10 times during a period of 5 minutes via 'Emergency' channel and asked to change their headings south immediately," the letter, obtained by Wikileaks, reads.

"Disregarding these warnings, both planes, at an altitude of 19,000 feet, violated Turkish national airspace to a depth of 1.36 miles and 1.15 miles in length for 17 seconds from 9.24.05 local time."
But many social media users have begun crunching those numbers and found that they don’t quite add up.

When calculating the distance flown and the amount of time allegedly spent in Turkish airspace, some have attempted to determine the aircraft’s flight speed. According to those numbers, the Su-24 would have had to be flying at stall speed.

Earlier on Tuesday, the Russian Ministry of Defense also released video proving that the incident did not happen the way the Turkish government claims. Flight path data of the Su-24 shows that it never entered Turkish airspace, and was attacked while flying over Syria.

The bomber was shot down by two Turkish F-16s Tuesday morning. One of the pilots has been confirmed dead by Russian authorities, shot by rebel ground units after ejecting.

Russian President Vladimir Putin described the incident as a "stab in the back, carried out against us by accomplices of terrorists."


Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151125/1030699146/questioning-turkey-airspace-story.html#ixzz3sSCqnq5A

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Moscow warns Ankara of "inevitable consequences" for attack on Su-24

Kremlin stresses that Russia is not threatening Turkey with military consequences for shooting down Su-24 combat aircraft, but warned of "inevitable consequences".
"…of course, I would not [speak about it] — and the president, in fact, was not talking about any military implications and we should proceed from that," the Russian president’s spokesman, Dmitry Peskov told reporters.
"The president refrained from such statements, but at the same time, of course, he stressed inevitability of consequences after such unfriendly actions of the Turkish side," he said.

No decision yet on Erdogan’s visit to Russia in December

The visit of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to Russia scheduled for December will depend on a number of factors, Peskov added.
"No decision on this has been taken yet," the Kremlin spokesman said. "The visit undoubtedly will depend on a number of factors."

Turkey provides no proof Russian Su-24 violated its airspace

According to Peskov, Turkey has provided no evidence to prove that the Russian Su-24 bomber violated its airspace.
He said once Turkey had provided no proof Russia relied on its data that the warplane had not violated Turkey’s airspace.
When asked whether Ankara had offered any official proof of its claims that the Russian warplane had violated its airspace, he answered in the negative.
"We rely on data from out defense specialists who know all the parameters of the downed plane’s flight," Peskov said. "These data show that the plane was flying in Syria’s airspace and was shot down over Syria."
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Russian Defense Ministry Video Proves Su-24 Never Entered Turkish Airspace

While authorities in Ankara have insisted that it shot down the Russian Su-24 bomber after the aircraft entered Turkish airspace, the Russian Defense Ministry has released video proving that the plane never left Syrian airspace.

According to a leaked letter written to the UN Security Council by the Turkish Ambassador, Turkey’s military justified the shooting down of a Russian bomber by claiming that the aircraft had entered Turkish airspace for 17 seconds.

But flight data released by Russian Ministry of Defense shows that the Su-24s never entered Turkey, and were attacked while performing legitimate maneuvers over Syria.
On Tuesday, Turkish F-16s shot down a Russian Su-24M Fencer bomber. One of the pilots has been confirmed dead by Russian authorities, shot by rebel ground units after ejecting.
Russian President Vladimir Putin described the incident as a "stab in the back, carried out against us by accomplices of terrorists."



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